the god of science? I know occultists who call 'im Thoth-Hermes
Thrice-Great, and other names august and imperial. looking into the
history of science, what people and culture developed the most
advantageous OR disadvantageous discoveries about the real
and how were they treated by their current and later curators?
Free Lunch <lunch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Joseph Littleshoes <jpstifel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>Free Lunch wrote:
>>> Joseph Littleshoes <jpstifel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>Mike wrote:
>>>>>johac <jhachm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>?Joseph Littleshoes <jpsti...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>Obviously the both have their faults and "sins" i am merely
maintaining
>>>>that in quality and quantity 'science' is a worse offender against the
>>>>human spirit than religion.
what does it take to "offend"? is it more reprehensible that science
should allow humans to sup****t billions of of our organisms at a time
rather than to rely upon far less efficient agricultural methods,
or is it more reprehensible that science is used to make bombs?
how will we ever measure the tragedy? which is the joy? whose?
>>>>...religion is not polluting the air we breath,
yes it is, indirectly, by its tolerance of such offenses.
a good religion would have it members protesting such polluting.
so we can see which religions are good by watching which ones
show up to those protests.
>>>>but the products of the "scientific method" is.
lots of things have been products of the use of the scientific
method which we want nowhere near to us at any time. it isn't
a panacea, it is a procedure for learning about the real.
>>> Coal is a product of the scientific method? Really?
>>
>>Strip mining, clear cutting, dumping of mining wastes into the water
>>supply are not only possible because of the technology science has
>>provided but also because of the nihilistic philosophy its discoveries
>>have engendered.
>
>Are you referring to the nihilism of the evangelical and fundamentalist
>Christians who are looking forward to the End of Days so they don't have
>to care about the earth?
hey watchit, they're supposed to be caretaking the land, the stuff, that
their god says that it owns, and that it is delegating to its wor****ppers.
their god conveniently may be presupposed to have owned it as it is
presumed
to have created it, initially, and therefore, naturally, it owns it all!
thereafter when the god in question delegates inheritors (say, if it or
its proximate representative died), we would know to whom we should give
the
known universe, as its humble slaves. of course, some of us oppose
despots.
>Ech of your examples, of course, are not directly related to science,
>but to human behavior.
they are related to what either scientific institutions or religious
institutions have employed scientific principles to achieve. science
is a methodology of discovering knowledge about the real. the real
world might not contain simplistic solutions to complex problems.
>Since when does science claim to say anything about gods?
soft sciences study states, like possessory states, and what
people say that gods inform them of. sociologists of religion
do***ent what people say about their gods and how they believe
they are reflecting wor****p and ideologies for their deities.
anthropologists are also scientists who study religions, its
contents, inclusive of its gods (sub-apparent intelligences
with whom it is said people interact).
your notion that sciences have no interest in gods (or their
lack thereof) is mistaken. sciences have keen interest in
whatever is identified with or as the gods, for it may
unexpectedly affect how a people or culture reacts due
to local, regional, and especially religious superstitions,
leading them to think something (is) embarrassing or alarming
or imperative or wrong, when few otherwise may believe alike.
gods sometimes rule sciences out of bounds. I don't
think i'm aware of scientists ruling gods out of bounds.
many rational gods have emerged from a more festive past.
nocTifer
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