On Nov 14, 8:32?pm, Malrassic Park <male...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:50:18 -0800, knucmo <stevejoua...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >On 9 Nov, 20:19, Scott H <zinites_p...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> In response to determinism, Kant explains how the antinomy of free
> >> will arises from a misuse of reason:
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> >> "The possibility of an infinite origination, without a first member
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> >> regard to which everything else is merely subsequent, cannot be made
> >> comprehensible. But if you want to dismiss this puzzle of nature,
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> >> you will find yourselves compelled to reject many basic synthetic
> >> characteristics (basic forces) that you are just as little able to
> >> comprehend, and even the possibility of a change as such must then
> >> become objectionable to you."
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> >> Up to here, I followed him. But then he says,
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> >> "For if you did *not* find through experience that change is actual
> >> [my emphasis on "not"], then you would never be able to excogitate a
> >> priori how such an unceasing sequence of being and not-being is
> >> possible."
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> >> If instead of "for" he had written "however," I wouldn't have
> >> considered it unsound writing. But then I would need a definition of
> >> "change as such."
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> >> I would have expected a proof by contradiction, i.e., "If you *did*
> >> find through experience that change was actual, then..."
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> >Very interesting. In the 3rd antinomy, Kant assumes that pure reason
> >always seeks the unconditioned in a series, and he uses this to
> >sup****t causality via freedom. But I reckon reason only seeks the
> >most recent, and sufficient cause. In other words, not every
> >conditioned supposes a complete set of conditions which ends with the
> >unconditioned.
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> You're conflating reason and understanding. I noticed you didn't say
> "pure reason" seeks the most recent. Pure reason is not about finding
> the most recent of anything, it is primarily concerned with God,
> Freedom, and Immortality.
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A question for you and knucmo,
What is the 'unconditioned'? Can a definition be given that is not
dependent on a spatial or tem****al framework?
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