Malrassic Park
wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:51:58 -0700, Immortalist
> <reanimater_2000@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 11, 6:41 am, Michael Gordge <mikegor...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> Quoting Dopey Kant
> >>
> >> "But we don't synthesize reality, make it up, it exists independently
> >> of us, and because reality exists independently of all possible
> >> experience it remains permanently hidden."
>
> Liar. This is not a Kant quote. Some Objectivist you are.
>
But "quite proper" for Randians to agree with the communists, who held
the view that increasing certainty about ontological reality can be
achieved over time via scientific progress or etc. Lenin attacked both
Kant and Mach's metaphysical pessimism in his book, "Materialism and
Empirio-criticism", and the Marxist glossary sums their issues up
succinctly below:
"Engels' famous explanation of 'thing-in-itself' in Ludwig 'Feuerbach,
Part 2' as properties of things which are at one point unknown, but
though the progress of science become known, is a well-known
explanation of the materialist theory of knowledge, and owes a great
deal to Hegel's critique of Kant's 'thing-in-itself'."
http://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/t/h.htm
I take it that Kant himself held that humans participate in the same
phenomenal world because we all use the same system of representation
(thus, a kind of empirical realism)? It wasn't until the 20th century,
when postmodern philsophers starting placing emphasis on language
being essential to consciousness, that skepticism was introduced into
even the empiricist foundation, via contending that different cultures
supposedly had different conceptualizations (cultural relativism,
constructivism, etc).
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