On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:57:36 -0500, "Steve Peek" <speek@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>hear, hear (standing ovation)
>Steve
>"rigger" <dgrup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>On Apr 4, 5:36 am, Re...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:43:44 -0700 (PDT), rigger <dg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >On Apr 3, 9:28 am, darthpup <amchi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 08:27:14
>> >> I don't know if you remember me or not. I was
>> >> the young guy who
>> >> was thrilled to learn that gold existed in the state of Virginia and
>> >> you were so
>> >> kind to help me by sending me free maps of areas known of gold
>> >> regions. I don't
>> >> mean to offend you but I was skeptical at first of the areas you
>> >> highlighted on
>> >> the maps because most of the old gold hunters out there in Mineral
and
>> >> Louisa said
>> >> gold is more east away from the mountains well I wanted to share
this
>> >> picture with you.
>>
>> >> I went down a back road after work just to take a short cut someone
>> >> told me there was
>> >> a old quarry near by long time ago I couldn't find it but did
stumble
>> >> on a mountain
>> >> stream here in Charlottesville which to my surprise had old trash
and
>> >> debris around
>> >> it but the creek was beautiful I looked down into it and found
yellow
>> >> all over I don't
>> >> know if its pyrite flakes or gold flakes but most of the bank of the
>> >> stream is covered
>> >> with quartz rocks all over and the stream is loaded with it there is
>> >> black sand
>> >> everywhere to I went once but I'm going back again. I'm not doing it
>> >> for the money
>> >> I'm doing this for history if these guys from the past could do this
>> >> with shovels
>> >> and buckets and left during the California gold rush and got shut
down
>> >> during the
>> >> civil war maybe I could go out and find some to. I think its such a
>> >> cool thing
>> >> history and the way things are today people don't think much of it
or
>> >> think that
>> >> it doesn't exist anymore but something in my heart tells me to keep
>> >> pressing on
>> >> in this pursuit. Before I go out I always say a prayer to God to
take
>> >> me to the right spots. Well now that
>> >> I wrote you a book I want you to take a look at some of these pics I
>> >> have and wanted
>> >> to share. I'm keeping my promise with you if I find some gold your
>> >> getting some I
>> >> thought that was a wonderful thing you did sending me all that
>> >> material and paid
>> >> postage your the best a promise is a promise keep me in your prayers
>> >> thanks.
>>
>> >Thanks for the reply.
>>
>> >So in Nov. of '06 you gave someone some free maps and......????
>> >We're all waiting to hear the exciting outcome. Or perhaps this
>> >is where the story ends, with much excitement followed by
>> >a disappointment?
>>
>> >It was nice of you to go out of your way to help this person
>> >but you don't say if there was any fee involved which would
>> >make it just another part of your money-making venture and
>> >not the act of a philanthropist, as you might have us believe.
>>
>> >But in the spirit of good fellow****p we can assume you did
>> >help "the young guy" <amchi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> at no
>> >expense to him. That's one.......?? Or perhaps this is
>> >where the story ends for you, but perhaps not for others.
>> >While getting outdoors and having good experiences while
>> >we prospect for gold is a worthwhile endevor we also like
>> >to find gold as well.
>>
>> >This reminds me of the optical/toy companies who sell
>> >toy telescopes and microscopes to kids parents while
>> >promoting 300X or 600X magnification. This leads the
>> >parents, and their kids, into believing they have something
>> >of value when all it is is a barely useable toy with "hype",
>> >followed by more disappointment and the realization
>> >they've been sold a bill-of-goods with fancy packaging.
>> >You see, although the item may indeed have 300 or 600
>> >power, the manufacturer "forgets" to tell the buyer
>> >nothing can be identified because of the poor quality of
>> >the optics. This is an old story. Is it your intent to
>> >disappoint people while taking (no freebies listed on line
>> >at this time, I see) their money?
>>
>> >Or do you feel sending people off on wild goose chases
>> >is somehow funny?
>>
>> >Prove me wrong and I'll give you the best apology you've
>> >ever received, followed by my unabashed promotion of
>> >your product. If not we'll know you as the scammer you
>> >will prove yourself to be.
>>
>> >dennis
>> >in nca
>>
>> Dennis,
>>
>> Doesn't the Buyer have a responsibility here ? You know, Caveat
>> Emptor. Show me one on-line video for any Gold Equipment co. that
>> doesn't show a nice clean-up with their products. And those little
>> cheapie books on Gold Prospecting - They probably aren't any more
>> helpful than generalized maps of "gold fields". Heck, it's well known
>> that the big money-makers during the Calif. Gold Rush weren't the
>> miners, it was the Merchants who sold them the goods for prospecting.
>>
>> Mind you, I'm not taking Darthpup's side as such. I'm just saying that
>> I think dealing with this stuff is part and parcel of learning the
>> trade. I liked what you said about telescopes. When I was a kid it was
>> the Edmund Scientific Company that people would get the "cheap"
>> 'scopes from - but Edmund stuff wasn't crap just not very powerful or
>> accurate. When you were ready to step up a a bigger scope you might
>> grind your own lenses and make your own. Edmund's still out there
>> but people don't want genuine instrumentation even if it's simple,
>> they want toys. And so toy-science is what they get.
>> Crap in, crap out.
>>
>> You got me on my Soap-Box Bub. I'll shut up now,
>>
>> Andrew- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Hi Andrew.
>
>You're right, Caveat Emptor is commonly known as the refuge
>of cheats, liars and thieves, but this doesn't mean we have to
>go along with their schemes. In fact it's not against the law to
>point out these schemes to others when we spot them; it's
>called "Being a good neighbor" something the last one or two
>generations seem to lose sight of in favor of "Do unto others,
>before they do unto you." I just don't ascribe to the same set
>of values as "the pup."
>
>I also note in your statement "but people don't want genuine
>instrumentation even if it's simple" an idea I'd like to expand on.
>If you're speaking about parents (are you one?) who don't have
>the means to purchase or knowledge to identify properly op-
>erating equipment then I'd say the parents may be duped by
>the slick packaging and hype, but I'm talking about the end
>user, in this case a child. Do you feel the child only wanted
>an inexpensive toy or do you think he imagined something
>close to the hype? I think I know this answer.
You and I don't disagree Buddy. Yes, I am a parent and my kids
went through the "Discovery Store Phase" too. Frankly, I think
most kids out there want toys, not real science. Hence, my remark.
I also think the principal reason for that is that their parents are
idiots who forgot what little they knew the day they graduated.
I grew up being able to roam at will outdoors most any time I wished.
It was absolutely linked to my appreciation of science; That is,
the study of the world around us. It is my greatest reget of
today's generation that most have lost that connection. 1st
exposure to "geology" ought to be a kids' rock collection, not
a "science activity" purchased on credit. You should learn 1st
lessons in astronomy watching a meteor shower with your Pop
not wasting your money on the "600X' Jap Crap Scope. To give
two examples.
But then the kidz can't roam 'cause of the Pedos, Dad can't take
them out 'cause the game is on, and Mom is at work weekends
to help with the mortage & Lexus payments. Besides, they just
wanna play Guitar Hero III with their buddies anyway, right?
That's my Soap-Box, not ruthless Capitalism. Our society has
much bigger problems than that.
My Best,
Andrew
>
>So now we have someone who will provide you with the key to
>richs, or at least makes you think about finding that "yellow
>stuff." But when reality sets in after you've spent your money
>and time "chasing geese" with NO return, how will you feel?
>I don't mean the "good exercise" story you tell but the one
>"inside" which goes something like "I wish I would have spent
>more time on the internet, talking with others before wasting
>my money and time on this scam."
>
>I had an upset faker once ask me "Who do you think you are,
>Jesus Christ" and my answer was "No, just an average person,
>who doesn't like to see people taken advantage of." Do you
>see a problem with this type of life?
>
>dennis
>in nca
>
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