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Re: Presidential Election - Magi Astrology

by "astynaz@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <astynaz@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 2, 2008 at 08:38 AM

On Oct 1, 8:16=A0pm, EHWollm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On Oct 1, 8:00=A0pm, "asty...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <asty...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Well..I finally decided to look at the candidate's charts and figure
> > out which one will be elected.
>
> > I am finally got rid of my pessimism in regards to the presidential
> > election. I felt that my ability to check out the election was
> > hampered by it. I also felt that I couldn't be impartial with my
> > being a liberal Democrat desiring an Obama victory. I figured Bush
> > would get elected the last 2 elections, and so I am capable of being
> > impartial. Magi Astrology was used.
>
> > MAGI ASTROLOGY TRANSITS AND SECONDARY PROGRESSIONS FOR JOHN MCCAIN
> > AND BARACK OBAMA
>
> > When it came to transits, I only looked at planets, Mars and more
> > distant
>
> > activation transits(positive): conjunction,trine,bidirectional
> > quincunx,parallel...also contraparallel(unless it involves Saturn)
>
> > turbulent transits(negative): square,quincunx
>
> > McCain's Activation Transits:
>
> > McCain has Venus square Chiron in his Chart
> > Transiting Neptune forms a Super Cinderella Mystic Triangle transit
> > with it by quincunxing his Venus and trining his Chiron
> > According to Magi Astrology, whenever a quincunx transit involves a
> > retrograde planet, it is a bidirectional aspect,and that is
> > considered an activation transit.....transiting Neptune is
> > retrograde, and so
> > Transiting Neptune quincunx McCain's Venus is an activation transit
> > It is very interesting how McCain referred to Sarah Palin as his
> > soulmate. He announced her as his running mate during the Super
> > Cinderella transit. Transiting Chiron was birdirectionally quincunx
> > his Neptune for another Cinderella transit at the time. Magi Society
> > says that we meet our soulmates during the times that we have
> > Cinderella transits.
>
> > natal Venus square Chiron:
> > This is a Super Aspect and the most significant Romance Aspect. Some
> > interpretations: charismatic beauty,love of family and marriage,
> > strong marriage and family orientation, a career involved with making
> > money, love for the New Age and what is part of the New Age and what
> > is a part of the New Age, money from marriage and family, money from
> > endeavors that are ruled by Chiron and what has to do with the
> > public, and a charismatic amount of money. The native is almost
> > always in love with being in love and therefore always needs to be in
> > a love relation****p, resulting in a tendency to fall in love easily.
>
> > Transiting Neptune trine Chiron:
> > one of the best aspects for business, it provides the highest level
> > of financial security,especially from Neptunian sources and endeavors
>
> > Transiting Neptune quincunx Venus:
> > one of the most powerful Super Aspects in terms of making
> > money,especially from Neptunian endeavors. By all means, maneuver
> > your schedule and plans to try to include this aspect in all business
> > charts, especially employment charts. This is a great aspect under
> > which to start a job! It is even useful to initiate small business
> > matters with this aspect, such as opening a bank or brokerage account
> > especially an IRA or pension account). It is also the best aspect
> > time to commit to any purchase over a period of time, such as buying
> > a house on a mortgage or a car on credit. This aspect will help you
> > make you all the payments.
>
> > McCain has Mars parallel Chiron, and transiting Pluto contraparallels
> > both to form a Super Chiron Activation Transit
>
> > Mars parallel Chiron:
> > One of the Male ***ual Aspects, it creates the ultimate high energy
> > level, generates more pure energy than any other aspect,and rates as
> > a Super S****ts Champion Aspect (a term from Astrology Works!). But
> > the Chiron-Mars aspect does not help coordination in the way that
> > Venus-Mars aspect does. The native needs aspects that help
> > coordination in order to most beneficially harness the energy this
> > aspect provides. If this aspect is not well used and controlled
> > through moral teachings, there can be constant moral slippage toward
> > excessive aggressiveness, and even belligerency.
>
> > Transiting Pluto contraparallel Chiron:
> > a Super Aspect endows extraordinary profit-making power. This is a
> > great enhancement to have in any electional chart. We call this
> > enhancement the STAR WARS enhancement because the movie was released
> > under such an enhancement.
>
> > Transiting Pluto contraparallel Mars:
> > a very helpful aspect to have in any business chart;it helps provide
> > the energy and drive needed for success. It also provides a special
> > ability to be competitive in business.
>
> > Transiting Chiron trine Ascendant:
> > a very helpful aspect when it comes to business; it is most helpful
> > in technology,entertainment,and inventions.
>
> > McCain has Jupiter contraparallel Pluto,and transiting Jupiter
> > contraparallel Pluto and parallel Pluto....a Super Success Transit
>
> > Jupiter contraparallel Pluto:
> > This is the most powerful Super Aspect when it comes to helping the
> > native achieve success in Pluto matters, such as big business and
> > power. The native is never satisfied and will always push to
> > ac***ulate wealth and power
>
> > Transiting Jupiter contraparallel Pluto:
> > one of the best aspects to include in any business chart,especially
> > when starting a job,business,or cor****ation
>
> > Transiting Jupiter parallel Jupiter:
> > success
>
> > Transiting Saturn parallel Uranus:
> > can be helpful in achieving dominance in areas ruled by Uranus,but
> > not as good as the Jupiter-Uranus enhancement aspect
>
> > Transiting Uranus contraparallel Neptune
> > - good for business
>
> > John McCain's Turbulent Transits:
>
> > Transiting Saturn oppose Saturn
> > Transiting Saturn contraparallel Saturn
> > (Saturn-Saturn Eclipse Turbulent Transit)
> > - a time to be viewed disfavorably,bad luck,control issues
> > Magi Society also believes that Saturn is the planet of deception and
> > not Neptune.
>
> > Transiting Neptune quincunx Chiron - it's exact too!
> > - bad,bad,and bad; no money,no resources, and no talent. It is not
> > something you want in a business chart.
> > (note: it's not bidirectional quincunx transit like it was when he
> > announced Sarah Palin as his running mate....therefore it's not a
> > Cinderella Transit)
>
> > Transiting Pluto square Mercury
> > - problems with big business and communications, issues with power
>
> > Transiting Uranus oppose Neptune
> > - problems with business
>
> > Secondary Progressions:
>
> > SP Mars trine Natal Moon:
> > This aspect is representative of a person that is highly
> > emotional,enthusiastic,never at a loss for initiative,can be
> > susceptible to being hyper,and can't stay put. It is this aspect that
> > is associated with a person who taps a table with the end of a pencil
> > incessantly.
>
> > SP Mercury square Natal Mars:
> > - the EXPRESS YOURSELF ASPECT, this person holds nothing back and
> > will not be silent;if there is a problem, you will know about it fast-
> > --fast. This individual is also highly intelligent, has great
> > reflexes,is very coordinated,has a lightning mind with a natural
> > ability to score high on aptitude and IQ tests, and is very
> > communicative, Women with this aspect have a tendency to communicate
> > in a masculine way,sometimes even in a vulgar fa****on. Also this
> > aspect helps reduce the chances of respiratory ailments.
>
> > SP Mars contraparallel Natal Mercury:
> > - the EXPRESS YOURSELF ASPECT, this person holds nothing back and
> > will not be silent;if there is a problem, you will know about it fast-
> > --fast. This individual is also highly intelligent, has great
> > reflexes,is very coordinated,has a lightning mind with a natural
> > ability to score high on aptitude and IQ tests, and is very
> > communicative, Women with this aspect have a tendency to communicate
> > in a masculine way,sometimes even in a vulgar fa****on. Also this
> > aspect helps reduce the chances of respiratory ailments.
>
> > SP Sun contraparallel SP Chiron:
> > - This is one of the most powerful aspects that is not a Super
> > Aspect. It helps the native to be noteworthy and/or charismatic. If
> > the native also has a Super Aspect formed by Chiron, then he or she
> > can have a hypnotic or mesmerizing influence on most of us. This is
> > also a Female Romance Aspect where the native (person born with the
> > aspect), if female, has an unusually intense desire for marriage and
> > children. Such women often marry and have children when they are very
> > young.
>
> > SP Venus oppose SP Chiron:
> > This is a Super Aspect and the most significant Romance Aspect. Some
> > interpretations: charismatic beauty,love of family and marriage,
> > strong marriage and family orientation, a career involved with making
> > money, love for the New Age and what is part of the New Age and what
> > is a part of the New Age, money from marriage and family, money from
> > endeavors that are ruled by Chiron and what has to do with the
> > public, and a charismatic amount of money. The native is almost
> > always in love with being in love and therefore always needs to be in
> > a love relation****p, resulting in a tendency to fall in love easily.
>
> > To sum it up: John McCain can be viewed as somebody that Americans
> > look up to,trust,and could do no wrong. This seems like it can be
> > connected to his being a war hero who is needed during this time of
> > War against Terrorism and the War in Iraq. On the other hand,it also
> > shows that he will be viewed disfavorably by many. There is a
> > possibility of deception and fraud that could involve the election.
> > There will definitely be a lot of people who will be very
> > dissatisfied with his being elected. It could also indicate that
> > after he gets elected, it could be too much for him and could be very
> > stressful for him. The exact transiting Neptune quincunx his Chiron
> > seems to indicate the financial crisis that he will have to deal with
> > as president. He could also end up being viewed as powerful
> > warmongerer. It is a time where he is more hotheaded than usual
> > (Secondary Progressed Mercury square Natal Mars and Secondary Mars
> > contraparallel Natal Mercury - a double focus Mercury-Mars secondary
> > progression)
>
> > Possible health problems too with transiting Saturn in his 12th
> > opposing his Saturn in 6th and transiting Pluto in his 3rd square
> > his Mercury in 12th. There is a definitely a possibility of an age-
> > related mental health crisis. I am very concerned that his age and
> > possibly bad health will affect his work and his judgment.
>
> > I couldn't help noticing that transiting Eris is exactly(0 minutes of
> > arc) sesquiquadrate to his Sun on Election Day which indicates a time
> > of controversy and discord which can also be connected to diversity
> > issues. This makes sense,his election would prevent the historical
> > election of the first black president(in Obama's case,half black). I
> > certainly don't like the exact Saturn-Uranus opposition which is
> > accompanied by Saturn contraparallel Uranus(therefore Saturn-Uranus
> > eclipse) on Election Day. That seems like a lot of disruption and
> > tension.
>
> > Barack Obama
>
> > Activation Transits:
>
> > Transiting Chiron conjunct his Ascendant:
> > - a very helpful aspect when it comes to business;it is most helpful
> > in technology,entertainment,and inventions
>
> > Transiting Uranus contraparallel Neptune:
> > - good for business
>
> > Turbulent Transits:
>
> > Transiting Neptune quincunx Mars:
> > - a very,very bad aspect to have in any business chart. Creates
> > a "scorched Earth policy" and willingness to "cut off one's nose to
> > spite the face."
>
> > Transiting Pluto oppose Venus:
> > - trying to make money in this aspect's time is like trying to swim
> > up Niagara Falls; don't try to buck the odds. Almost no successful
> > company has this aspect.
>
> > Secondary Progressions:
>
> > SP Venus parallel Natal Neptune
> > This is a Super Aspect. There's money,money,money---usually lots of
> > it and often inherited. It is the aspect that is most indicative of
> > significant inheritances. It also signifies money from other long-
> > term sources,such as real estate,copywrights,and patents,and health-
> > related fields. This is also a Romance Aspect, with the native being
> > generally a highly romantic person and gentle person. The native is
> > very idealistic in love, wants to have only one lover, and is very
> > faithful. If you want to marry a millionaire, this is one of the
> > aspects to look for in your prospect; once you find one, we hope the
> > two of you have Romantic Super Linkages.
>
> > SP Neptune contraparallel Natal Uranus
> > - good for business
>
> > SP Venus conjunct/parallel SP Uranus (Venus-Uranus eclipse)
> > - A SUPER ASPECT; the native is often a famous beauty who is
> > photogenic,luminous,radiant,and glowing. There is a desire for
> > change, including change of loved ones and the ever-present desire
> > for excitement. This aspect appears often with swingers and those who
> > have married more than several times, and deserves to be called THE
> > FLING ASPECT. For a man,this is the aspect of the eternal bachelor.
> > For a woman, this indicates a girl who wants to have fun; and who is
> > adaptable,attractive,and often is very successful in the
> > entertainment industry, If the personal aspect is a turbulent angle,
> > the native's love resembles the end of bungee cord,and defines long
> > term as the weekend.
> > (This might indicate Obama's theme of change as well as his viewed as
> > a celebrity who is well-liked by celebrities....McCain did cast him
> > as the most famous celebrity in the world)
>
> > SP Mercury square SP Saturn:
> > - Most of the time,the native has the ability to focus attention on a
> > project and bring to bear scientific thinking; the native is
> > naturally inclined to the empirical ways of science, as opposed to
> > using intuitive skills or seeking spiritual guidance. The native
> > often has a disdain for arts and creative pursuits
>
> > SP Mars square SP Saturn:
> > - All personal aspects are helpful,but this one ranks near the bottom
> > of the list. It is helpful in providing above-average stamina and not
> > much else.
>
> > Conclusion: Obama is charismatic and has strong financial ability,
> > but he won't be elected due because of overall distrust. There can
> > be a perception that he can't handle the economy as well as being too
> > idealistic and naive. I believe that "cut off one's nose to spite
> > the face" applies more to a lot of people that will vote against
> > their best interest by voting against him.
>
> > I believe that John McCain will be the next president of the United
> > States.
>
> > John McCain has the advantage over Barack Obama because the transits
> > form better planetary geometry including a Super Cinderella Mystic
> > Triangle Transit as well as 2 Chiron Secondary Progression Aspects.
> > Barack Obama has only 2 activation transits including 1 Chiron
> > activation transit which Magi Society are good for overall success
> > when it comes to the public. Magi Society believes that Chiron is
> > im****tant for noteworthiness and charisma which can help in politics
> > because it seems like these people can do no wrong even though they
> > could be corrupt. President Bush has Moon-Jupiter-Chiron
> > conjunction. He also has Jupiter parallel Chiron,and so he has a
> > Jupiter-Chiron eclipse(Jupiter conjunct/parallel Chiron).
>
> > aspect interpretations are from Magi Society's THE KEY TO SUCCESS IN
> > LOVE AND MONEY
>
> > Raymond
>
> Sorry, Obama will crush McCain.
>
> Is this the chart you are
using?http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/chart=
_display.htm
>
> Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
> =A9 2008 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
> Astrological Consultinghttp://www.astroconsulting.com/
> Articleshttp://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/info.htm
> Artworkshttp://www.e-wollmann.com/TOC.htm

No need for you to tell me....
I hope that you're right
I am a liberal Democrat, and I hope for an Obama victory
I am trying to be impartial .......can't let biases affect my
astrological judgment

Raymond
 




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Re: Presidential Election - Magi Astrology
"astynaz@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 08:38:05 
Re: Presidential Election - Magi Astrology
Bob Officer <boboffice  2008-10-02 12:20:13 

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