On Oct 1, 8:00=A0pm, "asty...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
> Well..I finally decided to look at the candidate's charts and figure
> out which one will be elected.
>
> I am finally got rid of my pessimism in regards to the presidential
> election. I felt that my ability to check out the election was
> hampered by it. I also felt that I couldn't be impartial with my
> being a liberal Democrat desiring an Obama victory. I figured Bush
> would get elected the last 2 elections, and so I am capable of being
> impartial. Magi Astrology was used.
>
> MAGI ASTROLOGY TRANSITS AND SECONDARY PROGRESSIONS FOR JOHN MCCAIN
> AND BARACK OBAMA
>
> When it came to transits, I only looked at planets, Mars and more
> distant
>
> activation transits(positive): conjunction,trine,bidirectional
> quincunx,parallel...also contraparallel(unless it involves Saturn)
>
> turbulent transits(negative): square,quincunx
>
> McCain's Activation Transits:
>
> McCain has Venus square Chiron in his Chart
> Transiting Neptune forms a Super Cinderella Mystic Triangle transit
> with it by quincunxing his Venus and trining his Chiron
> According to Magi Astrology, whenever a quincunx transit involves a
> retrograde planet, it is a bidirectional aspect,and that is
> considered an activation transit.....transiting Neptune is
> retrograde, and so
> Transiting Neptune quincunx McCain's Venus is an activation transit
> It is very interesting how McCain referred to Sarah Palin as his
> soulmate. He announced her as his running mate during the Super
> Cinderella transit. Transiting Chiron was birdirectionally quincunx
> his Neptune for another Cinderella transit at the time. Magi Society
> says that we meet our soulmates during the times that we have
> Cinderella transits.
>
> natal Venus square Chiron:
> This is a Super Aspect and the most significant Romance Aspect. Some
> interpretations: charismatic beauty,love of family and marriage,
> strong marriage and family orientation, a career involved with making
> money, love for the New Age and what is part of the New Age and what
> is a part of the New Age, money from marriage and family, money from
> endeavors that are ruled by Chiron and what has to do with the
> public, and a charismatic amount of money. The native is almost
> always in love with being in love and therefore always needs to be in
> a love relation****p, resulting in a tendency to fall in love easily.
>
> Transiting Neptune trine Chiron:
> one of the best aspects for business, it provides the highest level
> of financial security,especially from Neptunian sources and endeavors
>
> Transiting Neptune quincunx Venus:
> one of the most powerful Super Aspects in terms of making
> money,especially from Neptunian endeavors. By all means, maneuver
> your schedule and plans to try to include this aspect in all business
> charts, especially employment charts. This is a great aspect under
> which to start a job! It is even useful to initiate small business
> matters with this aspect, such as opening a bank or brokerage account
> especially an IRA or pension account). It is also the best aspect
> time to commit to any purchase over a period of time, such as buying
> a house on a mortgage or a car on credit. This aspect will help you
> make you all the payments.
>
> McCain has Mars parallel Chiron, and transiting Pluto contraparallels
> both to form a Super Chiron Activation Transit
>
> Mars parallel Chiron:
> One of the Male ***ual Aspects, it creates the ultimate high energy
> level, generates more pure energy than any other aspect,and rates as
> a Super S****ts Champion Aspect (a term from Astrology Works!). But
> the Chiron-Mars aspect does not help coordination in the way that
> Venus-Mars aspect does. The native needs aspects that help
> coordination in order to most beneficially harness the energy this
> aspect provides. If this aspect is not well used and controlled
> through moral teachings, there can be constant moral slippage toward
> excessive aggressiveness, and even belligerency.
>
> Transiting Pluto contraparallel Chiron:
> a Super Aspect endows extraordinary profit-making power. This is a
> great enhancement to have in any electional chart. We call this
> enhancement the STAR WARS enhancement because the movie was released
> under such an enhancement.
>
> Transiting Pluto contraparallel Mars:
> a very helpful aspect to have in any business chart;it helps provide
> the energy and drive needed for success. It also provides a special
> ability to be competitive in business.
>
> Transiting Chiron trine Ascendant:
> a very helpful aspect when it comes to business; it is most helpful
> in technology,entertainment,and inventions.
>
> McCain has Jupiter contraparallel Pluto,and transiting Jupiter
> contraparallel Pluto and parallel Pluto....a Super Success Transit
>
> Jupiter contraparallel Pluto:
> This is the most powerful Super Aspect when it comes to helping the
> native achieve success in Pluto matters, such as big business and
> power. The native is never satisfied and will always push to
> ac***ulate wealth and power
>
> Transiting Jupiter contraparallel Pluto:
> one of the best aspects to include in any business chart,especially
> when starting a job,business,or cor****ation
>
> Transiting Jupiter parallel Jupiter:
> success
>
> Transiting Saturn parallel Uranus:
> can be helpful in achieving dominance in areas ruled by Uranus,but
> not as good as the Jupiter-Uranus enhancement aspect
>
> Transiting Uranus contraparallel Neptune
> - good for business
>
> John McCain's Turbulent Transits:
>
> Transiting Saturn oppose Saturn
> Transiting Saturn contraparallel Saturn
> (Saturn-Saturn Eclipse Turbulent Transit)
> - a time to be viewed disfavorably,bad luck,control issues
> Magi Society also believes that Saturn is the planet of deception and
> not Neptune.
>
> Transiting Neptune quincunx Chiron - it's exact too!
> - bad,bad,and bad; no money,no resources, and no talent. It is not
> something you want in a business chart.
> (note: it's not bidirectional quincunx transit like it was when he
> announced Sarah Palin as his running mate....therefore it's not a
> Cinderella Transit)
>
> Transiting Pluto square Mercury
> - problems with big business and communications, issues with power
>
> Transiting Uranus oppose Neptune
> - problems with business
>
> Secondary Progressions:
>
> SP Mars trine Natal Moon:
> This aspect is representative of a person that is highly
> emotional,enthusiastic,never at a loss for initiative,can be
> susceptible to being hyper,and can't stay put. It is this aspect that
> is associated with a person who taps a table with the end of a pencil
> incessantly.
>
> SP Mercury square Natal Mars:
> - the EXPRESS YOURSELF ASPECT, this person holds nothing back and
> will not be silent;if there is a problem, you will know about it fast-
> --fast. This individual is also highly intelligent, has great
> reflexes,is very coordinated,has a lightning mind with a natural
> ability to score high on aptitude and IQ tests, and is very
> communicative, Women with this aspect have a tendency to communicate
> in a masculine way,sometimes even in a vulgar fa****on. Also this
> aspect helps reduce the chances of respiratory ailments.
>
> SP Mars contraparallel Natal Mercury:
> - the EXPRESS YOURSELF ASPECT, this person holds nothing back and
> will not be silent;if there is a problem, you will know about it fast-
> --fast. This individual is also highly intelligent, has great
> reflexes,is very coordinated,has a lightning mind with a natural
> ability to score high on aptitude and IQ tests, and is very
> communicative, Women with this aspect have a tendency to communicate
> in a masculine way,sometimes even in a vulgar fa****on. Also this
> aspect helps reduce the chances of respiratory ailments.
>
> SP Sun contraparallel SP Chiron:
> - This is one of the most powerful aspects that is not a Super
> Aspect. It helps the native to be noteworthy and/or charismatic. If
> the native also has a Super Aspect formed by Chiron, then he or she
> can have a hypnotic or mesmerizing influence on most of us. This is
> also a Female Romance Aspect where the native (person born with the
> aspect), if female, has an unusually intense desire for marriage and
> children. Such women often marry and have children when they are very
> young.
>
> SP Venus oppose SP Chiron:
> This is a Super Aspect and the most significant Romance Aspect. Some
> interpretations: charismatic beauty,love of family and marriage,
> strong marriage and family orientation, a career involved with making
> money, love for the New Age and what is part of the New Age and what
> is a part of the New Age, money from marriage and family, money from
> endeavors that are ruled by Chiron and what has to do with the
> public, and a charismatic amount of money. The native is almost
> always in love with being in love and therefore always needs to be in
> a love relation****p, resulting in a tendency to fall in love easily.
>
> To sum it up: John McCain can be viewed as somebody that Americans
> look up to,trust,and could do no wrong. This seems like it can be
> connected to his being a war hero who is needed during this time of
> War against Terrorism and the War in Iraq. On the other hand,it also
> shows that he will be viewed disfavorably by many. There is a
> possibility of deception and fraud that could involve the election.
> There will definitely be a lot of people who will be very
> dissatisfied with his being elected. It could also indicate that
> after he gets elected, it could be too much for him and could be very
> stressful for him. The exact transiting Neptune quincunx his Chiron
> seems to indicate the financial crisis that he will have to deal with
> as president. He could also end up being viewed as powerful
> warmongerer. It is a time where he is more hotheaded than usual
> (Secondary Progressed Mercury square Natal Mars and Secondary Mars
> contraparallel Natal Mercury - a double focus Mercury-Mars secondary
> progression)
>
> Possible health problems too with transiting Saturn in his 12th
> opposing his Saturn in 6th and transiting Pluto in his 3rd square
> his Mercury in 12th. There is a definitely a possibility of an age-
> related mental health crisis. I am very concerned that his age and
> possibly bad health will affect his work and his judgment.
>
> I couldn't help noticing that transiting Eris is exactly(0 minutes of
> arc) sesquiquadrate to his Sun on Election Day which indicates a time
> of controversy and discord which can also be connected to diversity
> issues. This makes sense,his election would prevent the historical
> election of the first black president(in Obama's case,half black). I
> certainly don't like the exact Saturn-Uranus opposition which is
> accompanied by Saturn contraparallel Uranus(therefore Saturn-Uranus
> eclipse) on Election Day. That seems like a lot of disruption and
> tension.
>
> Barack Obama
>
> Activation Transits:
>
> Transiting Chiron conjunct his Ascendant:
> - a very helpful aspect when it comes to business;it is most helpful
> in technology,entertainment,and inventions
>
> Transiting Uranus contraparallel Neptune:
> - good for business
>
> Turbulent Transits:
>
> Transiting Neptune quincunx Mars:
> - a very,very bad aspect to have in any business chart. Creates
> a "scorched Earth policy" and willingness to "cut off one's nose to
> spite the face."
>
> Transiting Pluto oppose Venus:
> - trying to make money in this aspect's time is like trying to swim
> up Niagara Falls; don't try to buck the odds. Almost no successful
> company has this aspect.
>
> Secondary Progressions:
>
> SP Venus parallel Natal Neptune
> This is a Super Aspect. There's money,money,money---usually lots of
> it and often inherited. It is the aspect that is most indicative of
> significant inheritances. It also signifies money from other long-
> term sources,such as real estate,copywrights,and patents,and health-
> related fields. This is also a Romance Aspect, with the native being
> generally a highly romantic person and gentle person. The native is
> very idealistic in love, wants to have only one lover, and is very
> faithful. If you want to marry a millionaire, this is one of the
> aspects to look for in your prospect; once you find one, we hope the
> two of you have Romantic Super Linkages.
>
> SP Neptune contraparallel Natal Uranus
> - good for business
>
> SP Venus conjunct/parallel SP Uranus (Venus-Uranus eclipse)
> - A SUPER ASPECT; the native is often a famous beauty who is
> photogenic,luminous,radiant,and glowing. There is a desire for
> change, including change of loved ones and the ever-present desire
> for excitement. This aspect appears often with swingers and those who
> have married more than several times, and deserves to be called THE
> FLING ASPECT. For a man,this is the aspect of the eternal bachelor.
> For a woman, this indicates a girl who wants to have fun; and who is
> adaptable,attractive,and often is very successful in the
> entertainment industry, If the personal aspect is a turbulent angle,
> the native's love resembles the end of bungee cord,and defines long
> term as the weekend.
> (This might indicate Obama's theme of change as well as his viewed as
> a celebrity who is well-liked by celebrities....McCain did cast him
> as the most famous celebrity in the world)
>
> SP Mercury square SP Saturn:
> - Most of the time,the native has the ability to focus attention on a
> project and bring to bear scientific thinking; the native is
> naturally inclined to the empirical ways of science, as opposed to
> using intuitive skills or seeking spiritual guidance. The native
> often has a disdain for arts and creative pursuits
>
> SP Mars square SP Saturn:
> - All personal aspects are helpful,but this one ranks near the bottom
> of the list. It is helpful in providing above-average stamina and not
> much else.
>
> Conclusion: Obama is charismatic and has strong financial ability,
> but he won't be elected due because of overall distrust. There can
> be a perception that he can't handle the economy as well as being too
> idealistic and naive. I believe that "cut off one's nose to spite
> the face" applies more to a lot of people that will vote against
> their best interest by voting against him.
>
> I believe that John McCain will be the next president of the United
> States.
>
> John McCain has the advantage over Barack Obama because the transits
> form better planetary geometry including a Super Cinderella Mystic
> Triangle Transit as well as 2 Chiron Secondary Progression Aspects.
> Barack Obama has only 2 activation transits including 1 Chiron
> activation transit which Magi Society are good for overall success
> when it comes to the public. Magi Society believes that Chiron is
> im****tant for noteworthiness and charisma which can help in politics
> because it seems like these people can do no wrong even though they
> could be corrupt. President Bush has Moon-Jupiter-Chiron
> conjunction. He also has Jupiter parallel Chiron,and so he has a
> Jupiter-Chiron eclipse(Jupiter conjunct/parallel Chiron).
>
> aspect interpretations are from Magi Society's THE KEY TO SUCCESS IN
> LOVE AND MONEY
>
> Raymond
Sorry, Obama will crush McCain.
Is this the chart you are using?
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