"I. R. Heller" <Heller-Efaco@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Ray Murphy" <raymur@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> | On Jun 10, 3:35 pm, pedantus <pedan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> | > Ray Murphy wrote:
> | >
> | > [.............................]
> | >
> | > >> Ray,
> | > >> You usually end up saying that you'll actually look at the
> | > >> illustration links later when you have time, but that doesn't
> mean
> | > >> you're actually predictable...:)
> | >
> | > > RM: I nearly always look at the pictures at every link but I
> don't
> | > > always see what you do, and when I ~do~ see the same things I
> don't
> | > > attach quite as much im****tance to them -- such as that knight
> with
> | > > the lance pointing to the left "fitting" on Ed's chart. I
> certainly
> | > > saw the significance of Ed selecting the knight but not the
> actual
> | > > graphic.
> | >
> | > This is because you want astrology to give you the power to
> see
> and
> | > (possibly) to manipulate fates, etc.....:) Deny it all you want,
> but the
> | > human ego wants to own a mountain before the beauty of the thing
> has a
> | > truly meaningful presence; such is the mind-controlling nature
> of
> human
> | > desire.
> |
> | RM: It sounds like it' s actually you who has a grossly pumped-up
> | vision of what astrology is. Do you feel the same way about people
> who
> | dabble in mathematics, carpentry and word-smithing, or programmers
> who
> | can write code to make things move around a computer screen at
> their
> | command?
> |
> | > You can see astrology's natal chart as the graphic projection of
> | > man's spiritual longing for a means to an individual signature,
> a
> sign
> | > of unique personal presence in the consciousness of man; or you
> can see
> | > it through the lens of the desirous ego which casts out all
> things
> | > apparently not capable of increasing one's merely imagine power
> over the
> | > fates of self and others...:) To simply see the beauty of such
> an
> | > organization of things, as itself, for itself, one needs only to
> | > relinquish his egoistic claim on reality as a possible
> possession,
> and
> | > the all-consuming desire to be a Napoleon of one's own internal
> empire...:)
> |
> | RM: I don't see a horoscope as belonging to anyone. It is merely a
> map
> | which displays a point in time, but in a much more sophisticated
> way
> | than a birth date does.
> |
> | > >> It is, apparently, the psyche of man which creates astrology,
> not
> | > >> the other way around. Painters have to paint, girl scouts
> have
> to
> | > >> sell cookies, and 'astrologers' apparently *have* to create
> | > >> predictions. Perhaps the next Age will allow astrology to be
> free of
> | > >> the basal insecurity of the soul which fosters the
> compensating
> | > >> delusion we call prediction...:) One person's coincidence is
> | > >> another's revelation, that is what it is like to be
> human...and
> so
> | > >> it goes.
> | >
> | > > RM: It's not only one person's revelation with your "pictures
> | > > astrology". It seems pretty obvious to me that artists ~are~
> | > > displaying their charts and characters with their art, but not
> as
> | > > often as we think.
> | >
> | > By "we" you mean, me...:) How flattering...just call me,
> Sire...:)
> |
> | RM: We display our character and our current situation with every
> | single thing that we do, including the style we use to do it, but
> you
> | have indicated repeatedly that you think that artistic expression
> is
> | significantly different from all other expressions of one's
> character,
> | but it's not. In reality the only thing that is special about art,
> is
> | the ability to do it well.
> |
> | > Rog
> |
> | Ray
> |
>
> Hello Ray:
> with these answers above you most likely have re-gained the
> respect of those (myself included) you have irritated for so long
> with those - lets say - most unpleasant remarks towards the
> various posters. Obviously you were so frustrated, it came across
> as mean spirited.
> Now that tr VE conj yr nat UR AND nat UR trine yr nat VE
> there came upon a pleasant change :-)
> To quote Lao Tse ". . before it move - hold it,
> before it go wrong - mould it . ."
> Now, this is the way (I am sure) we all would like you to
> be, to come across. -
>
> Just wanted to let you know it IS appreciated that you show
> the wisdom that is within you. -
>
> Be well,
> I.R.Heller
RM: You sound like a stark-raving lunatic.
Ray
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